COFFEYVILLE, KANSAS RAID

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COFFEYVILLE, KANSAS RAID

Post by ruskin » Sun May 14, 2017 4:55 pm

Renewed Fan:4374 wrote:Those of you who have read my previous posting on the Ingalls, Oklahoma shootout already know what happened ultimately to the Dalton Gang.

The year before the Ingalls shootout, however, the Dalton's tried something spectacular - and failed.  The apparent goal of the Dalton gang was to outdo the James gang - to succeed where the James' gang had failed at Northfield, Minnesota.  In other words, to rob two banks simultaneously and get out of town.   Further, they wanted to rob two banks in their hometown, just to make sure that all the folks back home knew who did it!

The date for the raid was October 5, 1892.  Two groups of outlaws rode separately into town - one group went to the First National Bank of Coffeyville, while the other group went to the C. &  M Condon Bank.  This raid was all the more daring because the Daltons were well known in Coffeyville, so they wore disguises.

As they entered the banks, however, someone recognized one of the Daltons and shouted an alarm.   Meanwhile, in the Condon Bank, the outlaws learned that the safe was on a time lock and could not be opened until 10:00 AM - they waited ten minutes (which, of course, gave all the locals time to grab guns).  Across the way at First National, the robbers actually got their hands on the loot, but were fired on by citizens when they tried to leave the bank.

Bob Dalton was the most lethal shot of the day.  He injured a citizen on the street named Charlie Gump (minor injury) then killed a second armed citizen named Lucius Baldwin.  He then turned and saw a man with a rifle outside the hardware store, and shot and killed him (George Clubine).  Charles Brown ran out, grabbed Clubine's gun, but was almost immediately shot by Dalton.  Next, Dalton seriously wounded one of the tellers at First National Bank, who had procured a gun and came running out of the hardware store shooting.

Meanwhile, down the street at the Condon bank, the outlaws were not doing as well.  Grat Dalton, Bill Powers and Dick Broadwell ran from the bank.  Powers was shot dead in the street.  Grat Dalton was wounded and dragged himself to a hiding place behind some barrels.  Broadwell made it to his horse, and tried to ride away, but was shot several times by Marshall Charles Connelly and several armed citizens,  mortally wounding him - he rode about half a mile before he fell dead.  Grat, from his concealed location, then killed the marshall.  Grat then tried to make it to his horse, but was shot and killed by citizens.

Further down the street, Bob and Emmett Dalton had fled from First National Bank into an alley trying to get to their horses.  By this time, Bob is wounded, but still fighting.  Emmett got to his horse,  and even though he was wounded as he mounted, and would likely have escaped but for his decision to go back for Bob.  Emmett was hit with both barrels of a double barreled shotgun and fell - amazingly, he was still alive.

Emmett would, in fact, survive and (after a number of years in prison) he moved to California, where he sold real estate, and became an actor.  In 1918 he appeared in a silent movie called "Beyond the Law" in which he portrayed himself (and he wrote the script).

The other four outlaws (Grat Dalton, Bob Dalton, Dick Broadwell and Bill Powers) died.  Four citizens also died (Marshall Connelly, Lucius Baldwin, George Clubine, and Charles Brown). Several others were injured.

There are persistent (but unconfirmed) speculations that the Daltons had more than 5 gang members in Coffeyville that day, possibly including "Bitter Creek" Newcomb (see the Ingalls shootout posting) and some of the Doolins, but that these individuals fled when the shooting started.

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Post by ruskin » Sun May 14, 2017 4:56 pm

PJH:4376 wrote:Great information and very interesting. I love reading this historical information. Thanks for posting.
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Re: COFFEYVILLE, KANSAS RAID

Post by ruskin » Sun May 14, 2017 4:57 pm

rooster davis:4402 wrote:My local county museum has a very large gun collection - said to be the third largest in the US, it was mostly amassed before 1920 by the man who built the collection. (He left it to the county when he died about then.)

They have a Colt revolver which is identified as having belonged to someone named 'Kid Dalton'. There were so many 'Kid' this's and that's, I don't know if this 'Kid Dalton' was related to that Dalton gang you wrote about, Renewed Fan - any ideas?

Here's the gun- it has a lot of information stamped into the metal on the backstrap of the handle. I don't know what this particular gun is worth - certainly quite some thousands of dollars, apparently it was used by a 'bad guy' - but I would LOVE to have it...



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Post by ruskin » Sun May 14, 2017 4:58 pm

Renewed Fan:4435 wrote:I would imagine that "Kid Dalton" would likely be referring to a member of the Dalton gang, but, frankly, I have never heard of any of them called "Kid Dalton"

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Post by ruskin » Sun May 14, 2017 4:58 pm

CaptainJack:35897 wrote:Minor clarification of the facts here:

- The Condon Bank was C. M. Condon & Co.

- Bill Power does not have an "s" in his last name

- Coffeyville citizen George's last name is Cubine (not Clubine) and is credited with designing the modern day cowboy boot called the Coffeyville Boot with its distinct left and right form and the block heel to prevent the boot from slipping through the stirrup.
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Post by ruskin » Sun May 14, 2017 4:59 pm

Swamprat:52550 wrote:The problem with that gun is that there never was a "36 caliber" Colt SAA, and the bbl is a replacement made after WWII, (address on the right side instead of on the top of the bbl). The 10 guns Bob Dalton ordered from Colt for the Coffeyville raid were all 45 cal engraved ones.
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