Finding Someone from Western History

We all know what the movies and Western shows tell us about the old West, but what are the facts? Here, we’ll discuss what these truths are, and get a better idea of what life was like in the real West!
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Re: Finding Someone from Western History

Post by cowgirl » Tue May 30, 2017 6:29 pm

Lu Young:5864 wrote::smile:  :smile:

TRUE AMERICAN HEROES!  We have a lot to be proud of in America
LU :wink:
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rooster davis:5867 wrote:
Lu Young wrote::smile:  :smile:


TRUE AMERICAN HEROES!  We have a lot to be proud of in America
LU :wink:
True heroes indeed, but at the time they didn't think that much of it. It was a job and they were going to do it the best they could even if it cost them their life. Who are today's heroes? People seven feet tall who can drop a ball through a basketball hoop? Young women with headsets lip synching pop music on stage doing what looks like an exercise video?

Most of today's kids don't know what a real hero is. They hear constantly that those sports and music types are 'heroes' of some sort. What utter baloney that is...
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Matthew:5869 wrote:WOW, thanks for sharing Rooster! That is really interesting. It's really great you found the grave.
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Re: Finding Someone from Western History

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rooster davis:5871 wrote:
Matthew wrote:WOW, thanks for sharing Rooster! That is really interesting. It's really great you found the grave.
Matthew, for just a couple of minutes it was just Pony Bob and me. I can't put the feeling into words but it was really something. Yes, he's been dead a long time, but even so being at his final resting place gave me a real feeling of connecting with him.

I've read that you live in Ohio. Josiah Gilberton English was a Pony Express rider, born in 1833, and died August 1, 1916 in Loveland, Hamilton Co., Ohio. I don't know if it's anywhere near you - I know Ohio is pretty big - and I don't know if his grave would bear any markings of his Pony Express service... but if by some chance that is near you, it would sure be neat to find his grave too.
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Matthew:5880 wrote:Cool, thanks Rooster. I was just down in Hamilton County this last week. It's about 3 1/2 hours from where I live. Next year I will be down that way again and I will make sure to try and check it out!  :cool:
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Re: Finding Someone from Western History

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rooster davis:5915 wrote:
Matthew wrote:Cool, thanks Rooster. I was just down in Hamilton County this last week. It's about 3 1/2 hours from where I live. Next year I will be down that way again and I will make sure to try and check it out!  :cool:
Matthew, may I make a suggestion that you check on the Internet for all the cemeteries in the area and drop them an email, asking if they have a Josiah Gilbertson English buried there and if so where his grave is located. It would make it a lot easier. And, if none of the cemeteries in the area say he's there, possibly he is in a cemetery associated with a church or some organization that no longer exists. You could either write a letter to the local newspaper or historical society, which they probably have, and see if they can direct you to where he's buried. Imagine finding his headstone in an old graveyard no longer actively used - what a kick that would be. Find out what you can about him beforehand and realize just who it is in that grave.
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Re: Finding Someone from Western History

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rooster davis:5930 wrote:Just an addendum to this whole topic... I emailed the cemetery where Pony Bob is buried to tell them that I would like to leave or plant flowers at his grave if possible, and asking them if that is allowed and what their rules are. I don't think anyone's been doing anything for Bob's grave for a very long time. I wouldn't mind making an occasional ride over to dress up his grave a bit.

If that lets me be a footnote in the history of Pony Bob, then all the better.
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Re: Finding Someone from Western History

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chrisb6263:5935 wrote:Good for you, Rooster!  I don't see any reason why they wouldn't allow it....
Best, Chris :hello1:
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Re: Finding Someone from Western History

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Matthew:5936 wrote:That's great Rooster! That would be a very nice thing to do.

You are a very nice person Rooster, I'm glad your my friend! :cool:

And  I will definitally do what you suggested, thanks.
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Re: Finding Someone from Western History

Post by cowgirl » Tue May 30, 2017 6:32 pm

rooster davis:5942 wrote:
Matthew wrote:That's great Rooster! That would be a very nice thing to do.

You are a very nice person Rooster, I'm glad your my friend! :cool:

And  I will definitally do what you suggested, thanks.
Matthew, you're a good kid and and I'm glad you come around the ranch. And, I'm glad to have you as a friend as well.

I just heard back from the cemetery where Pony Bob is; they do have a few rules but generally speaking I will be able to plant some flowers at his grave.  Pony Bob moved to Chicago late in his life and I don't know that he had any family there at all; he is in a section of the cemetery where they have 'single graves',- people not buried with other family members. I think it's a safe bet that he has no family in the area, or at least anyone who has any idea they are related to him.  To me, it's an opportunity to have a real connection to someone I think was pretty great.

It may be a few weeks before I can get back there but when I do I will post another picture of his grave. I expect to plant something low and hardy, probably red in color.

Hey Matthew, I also hope you have some luck at finding the grave of that other Pony Express rider - and maybe you can find some info about him too.
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